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Ayotte Needs Time to Think About Abolishing Torture

by: Dean Barker

Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 05:57:24 AM EST


Craig Benson protege Kelly Ayotte says "we shouldn't torture to get information," but then, perhaps remembering that she's a candidate in an increasingly fringe party, clarifies:
When asked if she would vote to abolish water boarding, Ayotte said, "I would like to think about that further."

Step back and think about that for a minute.  Someone who would represent us in the United States Senate needs time to think about whether torture should be abolished as a practice.

(Should John McCain be asking for his campaign contribution back?)

Of course, what's an Ayotte newspaper writeup without another statement reaffirming her lack of faith in the rule of law:

By trying Mohammed in New York City, Ayotte said federal prosecutors will give him a chance to "spout off on his anti-American ideas and we will also allow terrorists around the world to get access to intelligence that they can use to harm us."
I'm surprised it's come to this so early in her candidacy.

Both of those quotes represent an America I do not recognize.  We are made of stronger stuff than that. At the NHYD Kennedy Awards, when I said that in the face of an increasingly unserious party, "we need to be the adults in the room," this is exactly what I was talking about.

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You're right. It's particularly disconcerting to hear this kind of (4.00 / 1)
blather from the former Attorney General of the state.  It might be expected from someone who's never been in a real court-room (as opposed to a movie or TV dramatization), but from a prosecutor!!!!!

Never mind faith in the rule of law.  What about familiarity with court procedure?  One gets the impression that absent a judge to keep the process moving along, she wouldn't have a clue about what to do.  Which makes on wonder about the accuracy of what she presented to juries when she tried cases.  Did she just make stuff up?


On the other hand, the torture committed against the detainees (4.00 / 1)
was essentially "deprivation under color of law."  So, Ayotte's response is quite consistent with her general attitude that the purpose of the state is to deprive individuals of their rights as punishment--i.e. that government is organized as a punitive system.  

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It's easier than this to find her positions. (4.00 / 1)
The New Conventional Wisdom that any significant legislation requires 60 votes, tells you all you need to know.

Electing Ayotte or any Beltway-supported Republican to the Senate simply gives Mitch McConnell one more vote to cast.


Against The Constitution... (0.00 / 0)
How so many Republicans can say they want to defend the Constitution and the laws of our land, yet violate them, is hard to understand.  Here we have thousands of brave American men and women giving their lives in defending our Constitution and our laws, yet Republicans running for office who don't understand them.  I can't believe that too many voters will flock to those kind of candidates, no matter what kind of slogans or advertisements they devise.  

They look upon the Constitution as a secular version of (0.00 / 0)
the Ten Commandments--i.e. a prohibitive document which justifies punishment as a matter of law, rather than personal whim.
I found this report on the activities of rule of law attorneys in Afghanistan.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.a...

Security on the site was good and they had not had any recent attacks on the construction site by insurgents, said Jaman Gul, the Kunar Prison ANP deputy commander.

The site visit was coordinated with Task Force Mountain Warrior's rule of law office to enhance the cooperation and understanding between the host nation, the U.S. military and other agencies assisting the development and governance of Afghanistan.

"The purpose of our visit was to coordinate better between the U.S. military and other government and non-government agencies concerned with rule of law," said Army Capt. Craig Scrogham, the Task Force Mountain Warrior rule of law attorney and a native of Richmond Hill, Ga.

more info here

http://afghanistan.usaid.gov/e...


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Ayotte should (0.00 / 0)
read this, but she probably won't. I'm going to quote around the description of waterboarding. Those interested can go to the link.
Here is something of what Something the Dog Said said:

There is no washing away this stain without full investigation and prosecution. Waterboarding was done in our names, torture was done in our names, and as always with torture, it produced nothing which would make us safer, it merely inflicted pain and fear and helplessness on prisoners in our custody. This torture did not make us safer; it merely made us more like the people we were supposed to be fighting.



AG decison to charge Ayotte forthcoming (0.00 / 0)
The AG's office has been reviewing possible criminal violations committed by Ayotte in her response to the Executive Council during her nomination hearings this past March. I am pasting the last communication I received from Deputy Attorney General Bud Fitch.

More information can be found on the NH Insider
Discussion Board.  Clickon: Ayotte

Feel free to ask for the same information I refer to in my posts.

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This is the latest communication from Deputy Attorney General Bud Fitch.

He and I sat next to each other at Attorney General Michael Delaney's nomination hearing in July. I discussed the investigation at the hearing.

On August 6, 2009 I requested additional information. Since then we have have been in communication over the phone, through the mail, and via e-mail.

Mr. Coltin,

I have received your e-mail.  I will be traveling on State business through November 17th, and will make a response following my return.

Bud Fitch

Orville Brewster Fitch II ("Bud Fitch")
Deputy Attorney General
33 Capitol Street
Concord, NH 03301
bud.fitch@doj.nh.gov
(603) 271-1238
 



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