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Astro-Turf Teabagger Campaign Disrupting Town Halls

by: Dean Barker

Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 08:12:11 AM EDT


TPM spent most of yesterday covering the astro-turf teabagger campaigns happening all over the country to create the false impression that more than a tiny minority oppose health care reform.  It's all very much like the Bush v. Gore staged "riots" of 2000. It falls right into the playbook of trying to delay a vote on health care reform until after the recess.  This way there's time to play games with astro-turf in congresscritters' home districts. Delay = a better chance of killing reform. No different, really, than Judd's strategy.

The goal is to create a media buzz, and thus drive a narrative that we're all happy with the current health care nightmare.  And already The Grey Lady fell for the bait.

A reader sent along possible evidence emerging of this happening in New Hampshire, though at the link it's not clear whether the NH Teabaggers intend to be intentionally disruptive. And here is an account of a town hall meeting in Indiana where the teabaggers failed to disrupt the meeting, and some good lessons learned.

Update: FWIW, Skip over at grok is emphatic that their effort is not astro-turf. If so, more power to them.

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from what I've seen (4.00 / 1)
most of these people aren't even able to participate in a discussion about health care - all they can do is disrupt. They wave their copy of the Constitution, bellowing that it doesn't mention health care, yet not even cognizant of the fact that it does contain the First Amendment - which they are tossing out the window.

Carol has been dogged by similar buffoons in the southernmost parts of her district. They're the first ones to shriek that no one is listening to them.....as they make it impossible for anyone to hear anything.

Clowns.  


Trust (4.00 / 2)
Fortunately, there's a Grey Lady we can all still trust.  

Sadly, the first I've heard of ANY town halls in NH... (4.00 / 3)

... came from the Gilford GOP link that was presented in this diary entry.

I made this suggestion on The Great Orange Satan, and I'm going to make here too:

Go to the meetings. Bring a copy of the Freedom Works memo that the disruptors are using as their playbook. And when it's your turn to step up to the mic, give a brief background on who Freedom Works is (an organization run by industry lobbyists), before ticking off each of the bullet points that can be found in the memo.

Most likely, each and every one of the points will reflect behavior that already occurred during your Rep/Senator's opening statements.

Be sure to offer a copy of the memo to the press, and end your statements by thanking your Rep/Senator. Tell them that despite the noises of a vocal minority, polls show that the public is NOT happy with the current state of health care, and any plan for reform which DOESN'T include a strong public option, should be a non-starter.

Regards,
Corporate Dog



Astroturf teabagging (4.00 / 1)
Just begs to be shortened. Astrobagging? Teaturfing?

Has everyone heard about this? Downright immoral.

Joseph Richardson received a letter from Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND) in reply to a letter that he never sent:

(snip -- letter graphic)

Richardson never wrote such a letter, and he never would. Calling himself a "vocal member" of the North Dakota Alliance for Renewable Energy, Richardson told ThinkProgress that he is an ACES supporter and even wrote a letter to Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-ND) calling on the congressman to support clean energy reform.



We've seen this show before (0.00 / 0)
In the economic difficulties on the 1930s, corporate interests successfully manipulated fear and populist tendencies to intentionally disrupt  politics and whip up nationalistic violence.
In Germany.

No'm Sayn?

From a reader in Portsmouth-- (0.00 / 0)
One annoying aspect of this current health care debate is that the "Granite State Patriots" show up at any public events where they can get a little press coverage.  (They are run by the Durham resident Jack Kimball, the guy who said he was so afraid of Obama's election that he was buying a cache of weapons.)  They disrupt the events themselves with rude remarks and ridiculous questions.  They are increasingly acting like the old Brown Shirts in the early Nazi days.

Eye Opening CNN Obama Report Card......... (0.00 / 0)
http://reportcard.cnn.com/

Look at question 2, Healthcare reform is currently getting a D on the report card.  


Yes, eye opening (0.00 / 0)
Wrong eye, though -- you opened my troll-spotting eye.

[ Parent ]
I know, no opposing views allowed by the collective..... (0.00 / 0)
You should look at the report though, it is interesting.  This is CNN not Fox, so I don't believe it was slanted, but then it all depends whether you are buying or selling.

[ Parent ]
how (0.00 / 0)
is this report interesting? Please explain.  

[ Parent ]
This is not a 'real' poll... (4.00 / 2)
I got an email from my town committee asking me to participate, so I dutifully went out to read this.

It's not a real poll where CNN has contacted random individuals.  It's a poll anyone can go fill out.  It's meaningless.

But what really irritated me was they have a question asking you to grade your state's Senators.  Yes, one grade for both Senators.  I doubt you could find many folks from either party who would give Shaheen and Gregg the same grade.  Just absurd.


[ Parent ]
Well......... (0.00 / 0)
...it appears that the Obama Administration has squandered its pseudo-mandate by over reaching on its agenda.  US citizens have a hard time staying focused and there are now too many issues and agendas for them.  The real problem IMO is the failed strategy of Rhamn Emmanuel concerning the use of preceived crisis and instability to push dramatic change through the legislature, the moderates and blue dogs have caught on.

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Wrong (0.00 / 0)
I'll give you the blunder of Emmanuel. He acted stupidly. ;v)

There is a crisis.

Now, if the liberty minded folks of NH want to whore themselves out to Dick Armey's Freedom Works, this is a free country. It is kinda sad though.

For those that like to rant Noli Me Tangere, i just think it's a crime for them to bend over and take it in the keester. Worse yet, they smile and say thank you.

www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com


[ Parent ]
Lou Dobbs' presence (4.00 / 4)
makes CNN as bad as, if not worse than Fox.

[ Parent ]
Incidentally (4.00 / 5)
Trolling in a thread about astroturfing? Low.

[ Parent ]
ah - the faux moderate is back! (0.00 / 0)
Grade how the Obama administration is doing on health care is open to interpretation. Teabaggers would give Obama an F because he's a pinko socialist that wants to kill old people with gummint run health care.

Others might give a low grade for the fact that Obama is pandering to insurance companies and BigPharma, and not going far enough.

Nothing nuanced about CNN - or faux moderates.  


[ Parent ]
The internet advantage has always gone to the Democrats.... (0.00 / 0)
...the old school GOPs have always been slow to the draw on web issues.  I agree with your view of the votes but what is telling is that the RW GOP is relatively small, similar in size to the LW progressive population.  The progressives being younger and more computer literate have usually had the advantage.  I think what this really shows is a lot of frustration in the middle; blue dog Dems, Reagan Dems, independents (roughly 50% in NH)and the moderate GOP.

I'm OK with a public option, so long as it is for US citizens but I also want my private insurance that I work hard for.


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because only people who work hard (0.00 / 0)
deserve insurance. Those non-hard working brown folks don't deserve to be healthy, is that what you're saying joe?

I'm guessing the same folks who watch Lou Dobbs on CNN bothered with this poll. CNN has about as much credibility as Fox.

Fortunately, wingers  NEVER freep polls, rightjoe?  


[ Parent ]
Freep polls...... (0.00 / 0)
...thanks for the new word I had to google it.  It sounds like the conservatives have discovered the internet and the progressives aren't in complete control of it anymore.  IMO I think there is more balance now and the GOP was just slow to get on the web.  Dean's '04 campaign started politics on the web, while Obama perfected it, now the GOP has caught on.  I even read the other day that McCain is on twitter.  Could it be the freepers are out doing the DUers (new word I also discovered today)?

I think all of our citizens deserve healthcare, in fact no one is denied emergency care today and there are a plethora of free clinics filing in for those in need.  I do work hard for my benefits, but we also need a safety net for those not as fortunate as me.

Your race baiting comment about "non-hard working brown folks don't deserve to be healthy" is so typical.  It is estimated that up to 1/2 of the uninsured are here illegally, solve that problem and we could most likely afford better insurance/healthcare options for our citizens.  I'm more concerned with our rural poor Americans than I am with people sneaking into the country and working under the table, not paying taxes and then expecting that we take care of them.  Look we are a nation of immigrants but our ancesters came here legally.


[ Parent ]
unless your ancestors (0.00 / 0)
are Indians, you didn't come here legally.

I find your commentary on only helping the legal is pretty typical. Like many others of your ilk, you blame the wrong people for the problems this country faces.

I haven't met any white folks who want to pick lettuce for pennies. Corporate America thrives on the labor of those they can underpay and not insure - even as they drive higher paying jobs overseas. If there were no undocumented workers, a number of states and industries would be floundering.  

In fact, you might want to consider that the economy of the nation was founded on the backs of those who were forced to emigrate, and were not paid for their labor.


[ Parent ]
that should be yours. (0.00 / 0)
As in yours didn't come here legally.  

[ Parent ]
So... (0.00 / 0)
1/16th of me is legal?

Have you written a letter to the editor today? Have you donated today? Have you put up signs? Have you made calls? Have you talked to your neighbors?

[ Parent ]
WHERES YOR BIRT CERTIFKIT RAY??!1!!? (0.00 / 0)


[ Parent ]
LOL (0.00 / 0)
In a tin box under my mother and stepfather's bed that also holds their's, my siblings, my grandparents and their marriage certificate...and Lord knows what else! LOL

...though, now I think of it...isn't strange that my birth certificate says I was born in the SAME hospital as both my parents? And that the attending Doctor was Dr. Carter and I was a big Jimmy Carter supporter? And why does it list my grandfather's name as MY name? Which is the same first name as my mother's oldest brother? And...why was my birth announcement only in the Keene Sentinel? Very suspicious that it is only listed in NH's most liberal newspaper! Clearly this was all an evil plot by my parents to trick the Democrats of NH to believe that I was born in New Hampshire!!

Never mind that "RayB" can easily be turned into Bary! And we ALL know that is the secret name given to all of the Manchurian Children.

Have you written a letter to the editor today? Have you donated today? Have you put up signs? Have you made calls? Have you talked to your neighbors?


[ Parent ]
Every civilization has moments its not proud of ... (0.00 / 0)
...I not going to try and solve the indian issue of 400 years ago, but I don't think they had immigration laws.

Corporate America should be held accountable for employing undocumented aliens.  I support government crackdowns on such operations; like last years bust of the plant in New Bedford, MA, meat packing plants in the mid-west, etc...  

There is a certain equilibrium in the marketplace and if jobs were not being filled by the undocumented maybe they would be filled by the unskilled pool of Americans who would then be protected by minimum wage and other government protections. BTW, I have relatives who fought for the rights of those that were forced to emigrate and were not paid for their labor.


[ Parent ]
I'm unsurprised to find (4.00 / 1)
that you support government raids on businesses employing undocumented workers. In many cases during those raids, parents are taken away, leaving children and babies behind. Separating families - now there's "civilization" in action.

If business had to pay minimum wage to lettuce pickers, the cost of lettuce would skyrocket. Are you ready to pay $10 a head for lettuce?

I repeat - your anger is focused wrongly. I'm not interested in what your relatives do or did - they aren't posting here, and their actions give you no cover.

Something to consider - the public health system in this country is broken. If there were an epidemic of some new mutant germ/virus, wouldn't you want EVERYONE to be innoculated? Isn't it in all of our best interests for EVERYONE to be healthy?  


[ Parent ]
The illegal actions of others is not my problem... (0.00 / 0)
Although I feel bad for the children who get uprooted when their parents break the law its not my fault nor problem.  But they should be treated with care and returned with their parents to their country of origin and if they want to immigate they can get in line with those who do it legally.  Their parents made a decision to enter or stay illgally in this country, its their parents who failed them.  I say that we need to ensure that companies are not allowed to entice undocumented workers to work illegally and thus putting their families at risk.

I'm OK with paying fair market value for products.  Your $10 head of lettuce is hyperbole, if the labor rate doubled costs would go up but only the labor portion, fix costs of plant equipment and transortation are not affected by the labor issue.

I don't know where your anger comment came from but I'm sure it helped in your justification of your points.  You by the way are the one who strayed into the past, it was't me getting off message.

Under your public health concern, I look at the tried and true system of checking immigrants entering the country for disease like they did at Ellis Island.  I fully support vacinations for all, and a requirement that children must have proof of vacinations to enter public school.  I kind of thought that you were an anti-vacination big pharma is out to get me kind of person, go figure.  


[ Parent ]
you claim to feel bad (0.00 / 0)
when families are destroyed - but you smugly contradict your "feelings" by blaming the parents. Naturally the economic problems of Mexico (which the USA has nurtured for decades) have nothing to do with the decisions of people to try to come here to be able to feed their children. NAFTA has nothing to do with any of it.

You're still placing the blame wrongly. Your Lou Dobbsian political analysis is pitiful.

Your answer to the destruction of the public health system would be more laughable if we weren't at such risk. The free market system of delivering health "care" is a failure - and it puts us all at risk. Vaccinating kids won't stop an epidemic, and neither will "disease" checks. However, your ridiculous response did give you the cover you needed to make a silly comment about what you "kind of think" I believe.  


[ Parent ]
I can feel bad... (0.00 / 0)
...while still holding the parents responsible for their decisions.  The Government has failed to provide proper enforcement for decades, I do support enforcement to prevent and punish companies from profitting through the employment of undocumented workers.

You never hold anyone or entity accountable for their actions unless it is a corporation employing people and making a profit that you can blame.

Yes I know we are one tradegy away from a pandemic, just like the much hyped H1N1 flu.  Big Pharma will have vacines ready this fall.  You introduced "Big Pharma" into the discussion a few posts back.  If you're using "Big Pharma" phrases you are kind on telegraphing your position.


[ Parent ]
and as you hold those parents responsible (0.00 / 0)
you don blinders regarding the responsibility of corporate America and US policy. Imagine my surprise.

Big Pharma is a common phrase that has nothing to do with folks who are anti-vaccine - but I don't expect you to know this. Lou Dobbs doesn't seem to be giving you a good education.

http://www.urbandictionary.com...


[ Parent ]
I clearly said Government failed to provide proper enforcement... (0.00 / 0)
...and businesses should be punished for taking advantage of the undocumented workers, I hardly think that this deserves a blinders comment.

Generally those hung up on "Big Pharma", military industrial complex, evil profit making insurance companies have the same general positions, I'm glad to hear you're your part of that ilk and that your a free thinker.

By the way I'm not a Lou Dobbs watcher, I do follow the McLaughlin Group on PBS as I enjoy the debate.  I'm generally in McLaughlin's camp, but I also strongly align with Mort Zuckerman.  Watching Buchannan and Cliff go at it is just pure entertainment.


[ Parent ]
Here me good (4.00 / 3)
Look up the word "Freepers."
Online polls mean nothing.

Yet, I too would give Obama a low mark for his efforts, so far. Not a D, but a solid C.

"My Jack", some might say, "why so harsh on your man. We had you figured for a cheerleader." Well, my fellow blggers, I'm ticked and ticked good. Ticked that POTUS is bringing a knife to a gun fight.




www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com


[ Parent ]
Ug! Hear... n/t (0.00 / 0)


www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com


[ Parent ]
I wouldn't laugh, if I were you (4.00 / 3)
These folks may seem like looney tunes, but they are pulling together a tiny cadre of vocal activists.
http://www.granitestatepatriot...
http://www.granitegrok.com/
http://www.nhteapartycoalition...
This website contains many fabulous facts about our superior American health care system. A PDF file is also provided. (Diarist Note: PDF from conservative think tank, NCPA.)
While any system has its flaws, ours is better than anyone else's and thus there is NO need to allow some government bureaucrat a complete takeover of the decisions we want to make about our quality of life!

You may want to consider contacting your delegation and ask them how you can help. If you can't help, at least give them some words of support. The next few weeks will be nasty.


www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com


Yup (4.00 / 5)
There are two goals here by Republicans and their allies: scare Democratic congressmen into backing away from reform, and get the press to write negative stories so it looks like a movement. The Democrats should be matching and raising these tactics - have folks go to wherever their Republican congressmen and senators are going to be to lobby for reform. Of course, here in NH we only have one Republican senator, so it would be better for people to go to events with the Democratic officials and show their support for reform. Jack is right - the R's and the L's will be out in force. It isn't about health care, it is about destroying the Obama presidency.  



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    


[ Parent ]
Good thing we have something in place (0.00 / 0)
to promote the President's health care agenda.

This is me being polite, Mr. Bird.

www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com


[ Parent ]
Jeremy Bird (4.00 / 3)
National Deputy Director of Organizing for America (OFA). I am assuming.

Have you written a letter to the editor today? Have you donated today? Have you put up signs? Have you made calls? Have you talked to your neighbors?

[ Parent ]
Umm (0.00 / 0)
I know the old saying about "If the people lead." But when do the leaders lead? They needed a clearer mandate than 2008?

[ Parent ]
Ground swell, please (0.00 / 0)
At a very early Obama organizing meeting in 2007, I think it was Marshall Ganz recited some dirty hippie folk music.

I forget the details, but the lyrics were something along the lines of,"freedom dies everyday and we have to fight to bring it back."


www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com


[ Parent ]
OK, sure (0.00 / 0)
But we do control Congress, right? And the Executive Branch?

I really, sincerely hope our leaders do not fail to recognize the level of discontent in this country. The GOP will come roaring back if Democrats don't deliver. I'll wave a pom-pom, sure, but the men and women on the field need to score.


[ Parent ]
constant reinforcement (4.00 / 2)
Elected officials are like everyone else - they need positive reinforcement. If every time you turn around someone is telling you "x", at some point you start to wonder if "x" is right, even though you originally believed "y". It is human nature.

Plus, people reading about this effort need to hear about why reform is good for them. Not about "protesters disrupt town meeting".  



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    


[ Parent ]
On healthcare? (4.00 / 1)
Really, Kathy, that is absurd. A Democratic lawmaker needs to be reminded what the right thing is?

No. They need to DO the right thing to remind us that they're capable of it.


[ Parent ]
don't believe me (4.00 / 2)
Believe David Axelrod:

David Axelrod, a senior adviser to the president,

said the administration would "aggressively" respond to misinformation about health care reform.

"Health insurance reform is an issue that lends itself to fear mongering, lends itself to distortion, and lends itself to misinformation. Where we see it, we're going to respond to it aggressively," Axelrod said during an interview with MSNBC today. "The American people need to know the facts, and we're gonna make sure they have the facts. We're not gonna allow anyone to distort those facts."

Health care reform, he said, "won't get done if we're passive in the face of misinformation campaigns."

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c...

What is absurd - no, what is absurdly naive, is to believe that if thousands of anti-reform activists, organized and funded by parts of the health care industry, as well as by the people who broughts us Swift Boats, won't have an impact if pro reformers sit by and say, oh, sure, the Democratic officials will do the right thing. La-di-da, things are all perfect, hap-happy days. If a Democratic president and a Democratic majority made everything perfect, we would have health care reform in 1993/94.  



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    


[ Parent ]
what is absurdly naive imho (0.00 / 0)
is to think that we the people have any impact on this at all. Single payer advocates weren't at the table for discussion - despite polling that shows that we the peeps are ready for single payer.

This is a lovely little dance to convince us that "we matter" when all that really matters is Big Insurance and Big Pharma. They fund the election campaigns - therefore they've bought all the influence they need to maintain the status quo.  


[ Parent ]
"Absurdly naive" (0.00 / 0)
Under the rules of this site, I'd be within my rights to troll rate you for accusing me of that, but whatever.

Axelrod is talking about an adminstration response. (Where is that response?)

Why do we elect Democrats if decades of policy studies, every available poll, and their own campaign promises point in one direction, but they get swayed by a few loudmouths and some coverage on Fox? There has already been sufficient countercoverage for them to dismiss this as an astroturf movement.

I am really, really shocked that we are debating this at all. I really thought better of the party than this.


[ Parent ]
Momentum (4.00 / 2)
National politics lives "in the moment."

All the "data" is only half the battle. We have to give cover to pols by backing them publicly and passionately.

We don't get to take the term off and pick up a few months before the primary. Who puts the active in activist, eh?

www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com


[ Parent ]
Why? (4.00 / 2)
They ran on change, they said they'd fight for us, they won. On our backs (mine less than most, I'm not trying to be righteous here).

I didn't become an activist to become an activist. I became an activist to elect people who would do the right thing.

It is their turn to act.



[ Parent ]
Entropy (4.00 / 1)
Rust never sleeps.

We act through them. They don't act FOR us.

That how I see it, anyways.

www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com


[ Parent ]
Maybe it is, but we need to act also. (4.00 / 5)

As KS said the goal here is to cripple the Obama presidency. To a large degree they were able to throw the Clinton presidency off track and they are sparing no resources to try to do it again. There is a battle on to brand all that is happening and we cant afford to sit back and let our side take whacks everyday.

We need to be just as active as they are. That means going to town meetings to speak the truth to the disrupters, it means writing letters to the editor, it means pitching in early and often on the incipient 2010 campaigns. It means exposing the BS astroturf efforts every time they rear their heads so that the meme they are pushing isnt adopted by the media. They want people to feel helpless on healthcare and we have to show them that there is a way out.

It means all that and a lot more and we cant leave it to the electeds.  

"But, in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope." Si se puede. Yes we can.  


[ Parent ]
Oh, all right. (0.00 / 0)
But someday I want to hear what we can leave to them. Don't we ever get to just win? What did we win?



[ Parent ]
apparently, Jim (4.00 / 1)
we do all the hard work of electing trustworthy folk whom we expect to represent us - but once in, we can't trust them any more, we have to constantly wrestle with them in order to ensure they do the job we elected them to.  

[ Parent ]
I'm trying not to go quite there (4.00 / 1)
Just short of there, though, I admit. I feel like that sometimes.

Let's take this broader than activists. Part of what I'm trying to do is SOUND AN ALARM. Everything happening this week will be completely forgotten by voters.

But they absolutely will remember what Democrats promised if Democrats don't do it.



[ Parent ]
We can relax when the other side accepts the results of elections and the democratic process. (4.00 / 4)

When will that be? Your guess is as good as mine. The efforts to disrupt communications between elected officials by the force of noise is an echo of the 'Brooks Brothers riots' in Florida in 2000 which likewise used noise,force and threats to disrupt the counting of ballots. We did not respond adequately to that attack on democracy and paid the price with eight years of disaster.

To say that it is solely a matter of the elected not doing what we elected them to do misses the point to me. There is no doubt some craven behavior on Capitol Hill, with industry money causing some to forget for whom it is that they really work; however, if we are talking about disruptions in NH, that is not the issue. I have not seen one sign that Hodes, Shea-Porter and Shaheen are not dedicated to bringing about fundamental change to health care (note: this doesnt mean that they parrot my wishes to the nth degree-- it means that they are engaged in bringing about change that moves in the right direction along the arc of progress toward a more equitable society and they are thus allies not foes).

It is their communications that are being threatened with disruption in NH-- precisely because the right fears the type of measures they support.

It is up to us to stand with them.

"But, in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope." Si se puede. Yes we can.  


[ Parent ]
I do (4.00 / 1)
For the record, I am not singling out New Hampshire or Masschusetts reps here. As I wrote this morning, someone like Evan Bayh could earn a lot of points from me (and presumably others) by denouncing this nonsense loudly and clearly.

Also, for the record, I don't single them out, but I exempt no one. Top to bottom, the party is not doing enough. You will never convince me otherwise -- but they can, by doing enough. You say we need to do all we can, and you're right -- but our leaders need to do all they can too.


[ Parent ]
Maddows nails it (4.00 / 1)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26...

Maddow spends almost 7 minutes detailing the  'Brooks Brothers riots' in the context of today's efforts of the GOP to astroturf the health care debate.

www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com


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Jim, Listen to Nick Naylor (4.00 / 2)


www.KusterforCongress.com - www.paulhodesforsenate.com

www.nikitsongas.com - www.devalpatrick.com


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Jim McGovern (4.00 / 1)
As good a Democrat as they come, got compared to Josef Mengele by a town hall person.

Josef Mengele!
http://www.bluemassgroup.com/d...


I was thinking this morning that this all reminds me of the tactics of the brownshirt Larouche whackos in the seventies. (4.00 / 2)
And lo and behold, the article tells us they are part of it! The GOP may end up branding themselves in a way they dont anticipate if they keep empowering and relying upon the truly crazed and fascist elements in society, as Josh Marshall notes.

"But, in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope." Si se puede. Yes we can.  

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That is the point (4.00 / 4)
The story wasn't about health care reform; it was abouit the disruption by anti-reform protesters. Who is controlling the message here?

What the Republicans couldn't win on election day, they are trying to win through bullyboy intimidation.  



"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on."  Franklin D. Roosevelt    


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