Guns DO Kill People

On August 3, three people in Salem were killed in a murder suicide. Union Leader

Investigators are continuing to piece together the events leading up to Tuesday’s murder-suicide. Jeffrey Kaznecki, 50, shot Barbara Kaznecki, 51, and his 85-year-old mother, Shirley Leary, before turning the gun on himself at the home the three shared at 33 Wheeler Ave.

One of my friends experienced a similar tragedy last month with some family friends. The husband shot his wife, called his daughter to inform her that he’d just killed her mother, then hung up and then shot himself. It’s unimaginably wrenching for family and friends to go through the aftermath of something like this.


Six days before she was fatally shot by her husband, Barbara Kaznecki posted a Facebook message against tougher gun control laws.

On July 25, she participated in a Facebook challenge for all gun owners to post a statement about the U.S. Supreme Court affirming the right to bear arms. It finished with the statement “guns don’t kill people, people kill people.”

I’m really tired of that NRA slogan. Guns DO kill. That’s what they’re for. They aren’t a multi-purpose machine – they’re a killing machine. And when they’re in the hands of the unbalanced, they’re going to be used for their sole purpose.

After the Aurora theater massacre, a lot of Walter Mittys strutted and postured about how if THEY’D been there, they would have manfully gunned down the shooter. I’d like to hear one of the  Walters explain to me how he would have prevented this shooting.

Should the 85 year old mother have had a 9mm hiding underneath the couch cushions, just in case someone in her family went berserk? Should the wife have been wearing her sidearm at all times, hiding her Smith and Wesson under her marital pillow, just in case?

It’s not just guns that kill people. It’s our wild west, macho moron mentality that kills people. It’s the NRA that kills people, by propagandizing and filling their members heads with lies. It’s a nation that is obsessed with protecting the second amendment at any cost, while ignoring the fact that the first amendment is slipping away before our very eyes.

This afternoon a Sikh temple in Wisconsin was shot up by a gunman who killed 6 people before he was shot by police. This is being called “domestic terrorism” by the police. Dr. George Tiller was executed in his church by a fetus worshipping terrorist. A gun nut would tell us that we should all be armed to the teeth at church.

We aren’t safe in our churches or our homes. How many guns will it take to make us safe?  And is that the kind of world we want to live in?  

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7 Responses to Guns DO Kill People

  1. FrankLloydMike August 6, 2012 at 7:34 pm #

    I wouldn’t go quite so far as to say that the sole purpose of all guns is to kill people, but it’s certainly a principle purpose, and in the case of several guns it really is the sole purpose.

    We need much tougher gun control laws. We need to stop fetishizing guns. And we need to stop letting the NRA get away with lies that kill.

  2. TimothyHorrigan August 6, 2012 at 8:32 pm #

    For all we know, Barbara Kaznecki WAS armed when her husband went beserk.

    We recently had the tragedy in Greenland: Chief Michael Maloney was armed (AND had decades of training) and he managed to get shot and killed.  Cullen Mutrie’s girlfriend Brittany Tibbets was no pushover and was apparently armed that day, and she got herself shot and killed as well.

  3. mevansnh August 7, 2012 at 3:26 am #

    is how the right to bare arms as part of a well regulated militia got transformed into a right to possess any kind of weapon your little heart desires.  

  4. StraffordDem August 8, 2012 at 5:05 am #

    on gun violence in the US.

    Interesting read here in Scientific American.  Warning:  Information in the article that doesn’t synthesize with gun control as a solution.


  5. FrankLloydMike August 8, 2012 at 9:41 pm #

    Here and Now discusses an instructional video about surviving a mass shooting. Instead of looking at our gun laws and culture, this video suggests that we all determine multiple means of egress, potential hiding places and potential weapons every time we enter a public space. How has it come to this?

    • TimothyHorrigan August 8, 2012 at 10:06 pm #

      The 3 steps are , in order:

      1. Run
      2. Hide
      3. Fight

      You can do all three of these without a firearm.

      Waving your own gun around is a very, very last resort— and is a good way to get your own ass shot.  The first responders’ primary job is to stop the shooters, and if you have a gun in your hand, you look like a shooter.  Especially if you yourself are returning fire.

      I might also add the Colorado event was typical in that most of the victims were not killed or even incapacitated.  Hitting the shooter does not immediately stop him.  

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