There is a Storm is Gathering…

Here are the radio Ads running across the state curiously well timed in advance of today’s session at the statehouse. @NHAFLCIO will be tweeting live with the #standupNH and #nhunion hashtags. #stopRtW seems to be another tag in use.

 AFPR-02+Americans For Prosperity+Not Free 11-21-11+S by mhoefer

 AFPR-02+Americans For Prosperity+Unfair 11-22-11+S by mhoefer

 NHAC+NH Advantage Coalition+Protect 11-23-11+S by mhoefer

 AFPR-01+Americans For Prosperity+Stand Up 11-21-11+S by mhoefer

(Diary title is a H/T to laughable NOM ad from last cycle)

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26 Responses to There is a Storm is Gathering…

  1. tchair November 30, 2011 at 8:01 pm #

    All the GOP has is hate for Obama and love for the 1%

  2. Lucy Edwards November 30, 2011 at 8:47 pm #

    This is what she e-mailed to me:

    A Fable for Our Times:

    Tonight I got a call re: the Right to Work bill and how Governor Lynch had vetoed this bill, after it had been approved by both the NH House and Senate. The young woman on the phone offered me a phone number to call to urge my NH representatives to override Govenor Lynch’s veto, and pointed out that this next vote might be our last chance to fight against big labor.

    After listening politely to a pretty lengthy spiel, I had to ask, “Where do you live?”

    She hesitated and then said, “Virginia.”

  3. JonnyBBad November 30, 2011 at 9:13 pm #

    NH House To Vote Now ON RTW Veto Over Ride…O’Brien just called a 5 minute recess to empty the Hall then immediately called the vote…

    • The Money Magician November 30, 2011 at 9:36 pm #
  4. Douglas E. Lindner November 30, 2011 at 9:35 pm #

    Not, “support the right to work.”

    Because it’s a euphemism.

  5. Douglas E. Lindner November 30, 2011 at 9:39 pm #

    The NOM “storm” ad Mike is referencing has always reminded me of the Bush ’04 Wolves ad.

  6. Kathy Sullivan 2 November 30, 2011 at 9:48 pm #

    I also hear only four absent D’s.
    Time to say a prayer and/or engage in serious meditation.

  7. mph81 November 30, 2011 at 10:02 pm #

    240-139 in favor of the override, well short of the 2/3 required.

    • Rep. Jim Splaine November 30, 2011 at 10:05 pm #

      Win.  O’Brien’s Right-Wing crew:  lose.  

      Just 341 days until November 6, 2012, when they lose much more.

  8. hannah November 30, 2011 at 11:59 pm #

    indirection. Their either/or world view helps in that sense because they can promote what they want by destroying what they perceive to be its opposite.
    “Right to work” is sort of a double-fake. Since “to work or be employed” is to be subservient for one’s subsistence to another, the “right to work” is really an acceptance of the notion that sustenance needs to be earned–i.e. not an entitlement.
    Turning a right into an obligation is akin to blaming the victim. It represents a world in which, instead of people who act and affect other people, people are like robots reacting to signals. They get rid of free will by simply denying its existence.
    Search me if there’s a way to call such people to account.

    • StraffordDem December 1, 2011 at 1:12 am #

      We’ve watched here in NH as a stealth movement has infiltrated a political party, taken advantage of a wave election, and pushed an extreme agenda.  In a way, those of us who pay attention to such things (probably more than we should) have been slapped awake by these efforts.  Co-opting positions, disguising ideological philosophy, and fomenting distrust and resentment of all things public have been just a few items on the menu.

      Even with the Free State Project as a background, I’ve been pretty shocked to read Journey into a Libertarian Future over at Naked Capitalism.  It’s a six-part interview with a Libertarian vision-maker whose ideas are so radical that (s)he must use a pseudonym.

      Getting to your point about indirection, it’s become painfully clear to me that this has been part of the master plan from day one, whenever that was.  From the interview (sections in quotes are attributable to quotes from Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s 2001 book “Democracy: The God That Failed.”:
      ANDREW: Even if you do it secretly, convincing the masses that they are inferior sounds tricky.

      CNC: That’s true, but you don’t have to convince Joe the Plumber that he is a brute. You can convince him instead that he is a hardworking, productive individual, and that other people are brutes who are making it so Joe has no control over his life.

      ANDREW: I see.

      CNC: Still, you’re right. Convincing the masses of the superiority of the natural elite is not the most important part of our communications strategy. “The central task of those wanting to turn the tide… is the “delegitimation” of the idea of democracy…” [103] It is not enough to focus on “specific policies or personalities… Every critic and criticism deserving of support must proceed to explain each and every particular government failing as an underlying flaw in the very idea of government itself (and of democratic government in particular).” [94]

      I read stuff like this and wonder if it’s me with the skewed perception of reality.  But I no longer laugh at them.

      • Lucy Edwards December 1, 2011 at 2:06 am #

        of that interview.  Yikes.  Not a society I want to live in.  Still makes me think “adolescent wet dream,” though.

        • StraffordDem December 1, 2011 at 2:13 am #

          As bad as the philosophy is, and it’s bad, it’s the calculated and devious methods employed that have me concerned.  Here I’ve been saying that delegitimizing government was dangerous to democracy when that’s entirely the point.  Holy crap.

          • susaninrindge December 1, 2011 at 7:23 pm #

            They are actually changing the DNA of our system and using democracy to destroy itself.  I’m curious which Republican leaders/factions outside NH do you see as proponents of this approach? On the national stage, who, other than Ron Paul, would you put in this camp?  

            • StraffordDem December 1, 2011 at 10:05 pm #

              Your question is a good one with not an easy answer because of the strategy and tactics being used.  First, I’m reminded of Hanlon’s razor – Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

              I think, SiR, that we are reaching a zenith in the Reagan revolution.  The core of the GOP argument since Reagan has been that government is the problem.  Yes, the GOP is rich in tradition with this philosophy, but it mostly happened in a vacuum within a minority party.  Reagan really vaulted this ideology into the mainstream.

              That has opened the door for a fringe element that has skillfully infiltrated and manipulated the system.  Given the methods used, it really doesn’t matter anymore if there’s a trumpet sounder like Paul.  By continuing to make the argument in the echo chamber that government is broken (rather than politics), the GOP is a partner, witting or not, in this very dangerous and very un-democratic game.  I think the GOP has completely embraced it as a philosophy when you consider the Orwellian parlance used to describe and define issues and policy.

              Funny (not ha ha funny, but oh, shit, funny) I thought perhaps the Contract on America was the ebbing of this tide, but now see that as a temporary pause.  It is beyond ironic to me that the tipping point in this ideological battle may happen with Gingrich as the standard bearer for the GOP.  Against an African-American incumbent president.  The historical harmonies are deafening.  

              • susaninrindge December 2, 2011 at 1:24 am #

                Perhaps too many analogies in one place, but it all reminds me of the Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Once the everyday people/citizens are taken over, they still think they are “normal.”  The traditional Republican Party has no idea that they are infected and infested with this time bomb that will blow up the whole freaking system (or worse)  They really are the Trojan Horse I identified in my last diary.  They are the warm mammalian host providing the nourishment for the virus while it spreads its poison, ready to take down the body.

                I suspect Gingrich, himself, may not even see the irony.  Do any of them understand just what they’re doing or are they all just in it as a game they need to win to quench their voracious egos?

                • StraffordDem December 2, 2011 at 2:10 am #

                  I think that’s the brilliance with the strategy.  Convince at least a plurality of people that they are hard working, tax paying, regular folks being screwed over by lazy system cheaters (or welfare queens, or any number of code names for people who are “different”.)  Foster the resentments of folks who “think they are better than you”, and government “handouts”, and exploit the myth of rugged American individualism.  

                  Have you read Deer Hunting with Jesus, by Joe Bageant (someone recommended to me from BH and it was great).  Really answers some of the questions around how the strategy is successful.  Here’s Bageant in an interview (he died this year):

                  And this really gets to the heart of this diary, particularly about why the folks who produced the radio ads thought they could shift public opinion.  It’s a tried and true recipe, first developed in the 1930s.  The Mohawk Valley Formula.

                  • susaninrindge December 2, 2011 at 2:22 am #
                    • susaninrindge December 2, 2011 at 4:17 am #
                    • hannah December 5, 2011 at 3:30 pm #

                      main objective, control. If humans are to be treated like herd animals, their identification with each other has to be destroyed. In some cases, where people are self-centered and myopic, it’s easy (that’s the base), in others it takes work to generate antagonisms. Isolating people in separate quarters and cages on wheels helps. Temporal and spatial disassociation are, oddly enough, helpful in turning social creatures into organisms that are herdable.  Herd animals don’t have much of a sense of togetherness–i.e. if laggards are “taken” by predators, they’re not missed.

                      Are humans hunting and predating their own kind a primitive variant of the species or is there a genetic flaw in their development?  Or is it just a matter of some humans having no skills, other than to manipulate their own kind?  Deprivators do seem to be stuck in an infantile phase.  Their physical and linguistic development continues, but their acquisition of practical talents gets stuck.  So, their environment does for them and they grow up as what used to be called “spoiled.”
                      Of course, if there’s some developmental deficit, then the rod can’t be a corrective.  It will only make the human mean.

  9. Kathy Sullivan 2 December 1, 2011 at 12:21 am #

    Elect about 50 more state reps who do not support right to work for less and/or elect another governor who will veto right to work for less legislation.

    Congratulations and thanks to all the state resp, both D’s and R’s, who re-arranged their lives to be in Concord whenever O’Brien called a session, and for being wise enough to know that he could not be believed when he said there would be no override votes. How churlish of him to schedule this knowing that it would disrupt plans of legislators who had made arrangements to attend national conferences out of state, or who work. He is the worst – speaker – evuh.  

    • Rep. Jim Splaine December 1, 2011 at 12:59 am #

      …to the worst Speaker evuh.  You’re right.  I think we’ll get the 50+ State Reps. you mention, and another great Governor.  

    • Paul Twomey December 1, 2011 at 1:05 am #

      It is the result of a years worth of hard labor by a great coalition of unions, non-profits like America Votes, the Democratic Party, and fair minded Republicans and independents– exactly the same coalition that will take the state back from the extremists of the right.

  10. Kathy Sullivan 2 December 1, 2011 at 1:48 am #

    Both O’Brien and Bettencourt issued outraged statements; Bettencourt’s included this little gem:

    Governor Lynch’s veto was bought and paid for by the unions of this state through hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign donations.


    Oh, please, like John Lynch who self funded so much of his electoral efforts was bought and paid for by organized labor – how miffed was labor with him over the evergreen legislation and some other issues?  Typical of DJ to make stuff up to divert attention from the fact that he is the worst – majority – leader – evuh. With the worst – speaker – evuh.

    • Marjorie Porter December 1, 2011 at 2:23 am #

      showed me two huge postcard mailers attacking her personally (her picture was on them) sent to her constituents because she had voted against RTW this year.  Big money was spent on them–rumor has it there was Koch funding.

      She’s a long term rep, and has worked very hard for the people of NH, especially on social issues.  She is well respected on both sides of the aisle. I admire and respect her, and we hold many of the same ideals.  She is good at her job.

      She was visibly shaken.  She told me the “facts” on the cards about her were untrue.  She told me she was glad to veto was sustained.

      • hannah December 5, 2011 at 3:52 pm #

        taught.  Satan deceived to destroy God’s creation.  Putting the blame on the victims of the deception is also characteristic of how deception works.  It’s a double fake.  
        The reason good people don’t recognize deception when it shows up is because it’s unfamiliar.  Indeed, when it shows up in the family, as in what is euphemistically called “child abuse,” innocence covers it up–the child does not know how to describe what it experiences.  That’s why evil targets innocents, counting on that it won’t be found out and obedience as insurance.

        Obedience is the handmaiden of abuse. Which suggests that very obedient children should make us suspicious.
        OWS is challenging the culture of obedience, as do same-sex marriages.  Indeed, therein lies the “threat” to traditional marriages which perpetuate the culture of obedience and subservience. “Family values” is code for the obedience/abuse relationship. The antagonism towards the welfare of children is not inconsistent; it is part and parcel of the abuse of human rights. “fungible troops” and disposable children express the same attitude.  Of course, for children to be disposable, they have to be first born. Women have to give birth, if there are to be children to be exploited. Human husbandry depends on it.  Population controlled be damned.

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